Plants or parts of plants shouldn’t be eaten unless there is definite evidence that they are safe. The Himalayan blackberry (R. armeniacus) and evergreen blackberry (R. lacinatus) are the locally prevalent ones. It’s smaller, sweeter berries have fewer seeds and ripen earlier than Himalayan blackberries. Where I live, the leaves stay green in winter. A cobbler is a baked dish containing fruit topped with biscuit or pie dough or cake batter. Rubus laciniatus Willd. They could be bought in stores, but wild blackberries can be picked for free. Mehr erfahren. Other people hate the aggressive growth of the plant and the fact that it interferes with native plants and animals. Particularly I admire the focusing on the picture of the thorny blackberry stem. Some herbicides can help to destroy the plants, but these mustn't be used in areas where people collect blackberries. Therefore I have to say no, the roots aren’t edible, simply because I don’t whether they are safe or dangerous. The "berries" are black or dark purple. The blackberries here don't seem to get so wild. Digging out the roots is good if you can get them all. Thank you. Cutleaf and Himalayan blackberry are highly invasive and difficult to control. All of the photos in this article were taken by me as I observed my local plants at various times in the year. I assume that the person or people who did this were attracted by the tasty fruit and wanted to pick it on their property. prasetio30 from malang-indonesia on July 28, 2012: Alicia, you always do the best in every of your hubs, including this one. These are green on the upper surface and grey-green on the undersurface. These non-native shrubs pose threats to our oak savannahs, rocky balds and open Thanks for the visit. Voted up. In addition, avoid collecting it from a polluted area or from one treated by pesticides. It's an unwelcome visitor, despite its lovely fruit. Botanists don't classify the fruit as a berry, however. The Himalayan blackberry is considered to be native to Armenia and is sometimes called the Armenian blackberry. Bill Holland from Olympia, WA on July 23, 2012. Indem Sie weiterhin auf der Website surfen bzw. Thanks for share with us. Some people, like me, appreciate both sides of the debate. Our canal is currently overrun with the invasive Himlayan balsam - though bees love it! It loses its attractiveness as it grows and becomes a major nuisance. My personal favorite for berries is the evergreen blackberry. It would be sad to let a plant gain the upper hand again after all the hard work done to remove it. The five petals of the Himalayan blackberry are generally fuller and wider than the Pacific blackberry, and the thorns are more abundant on the non-native. Best wishes. 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HINT: it takes a little longer, but if you stack the limb/vines as you go in a bundle going the same direction as best you can combining the small piles into big ones, there is very little clean up and they fit into the yard debree/utility trailor better. The thorns and prickles on the bushes make picking the fruit a challenge, but the berries taste wonderful. Linda Crampton (author) from British Columbia, Canada on November 29, 2018: Hi. Linda Crampton (author) from British Columbia, Canada on October 31, 2012: Greensleeves Hubs from Essex, UK on October 31, 2012: My pleasure AliciaC. The top leaflet is the biggest one. I love to make them into blackberry cobbler. Himalayan blackberry spreads over other plants or buildings and can form dense, thorny thickets. Himalayan blackberry can be distinguished from other blackberries by the following: Undersides of the leaves on the invasive Himalayan blackberry are white-silver in color. The quality of the pictures, too, is perfect. Canes in their second year of life produce flowers. One organic method that works for me has been to clip all the vines I can get to, to about 7 inches from the ground. Animals may be trapped or injured by large thorns on the canes. Non-native: introduced (intentionally or unintentionally); has become naturalized. With something like the blackberry it is difficult to separate the benefits of the fruit and the problems caused by their impact on native species. A crumble is a baked dish made from fruit topped with a crumbled mixture of oats, flour, butter, and sugar. If they can be kept in one particular area without spreading they're a useful plant. I can’t help admiring it, not only for its delicious and bountiful fruit but also for the beauty of its fresh leaves, flowers, and berries. pacific blackberry vs himalayan blackberry You probably dont want to compost these unless you have lots of spare room, the leaves will drop off quickly, but the stalks can take a couple years to break down. I find nature and the study of living things endlessly fascinating! Yes, blackberry cobblers and pies are delicious! In addition, the plant's vigorous growth and habit of covering everything in its path can be hard to deal with. • Native to western Europe, probably introduced as a cultivated variety • Forms distinctly angled canes that may reach as much as 10 ft in height • Leaves usually 5-foliate and without hairs • White flowers, usually blooming a bit later than native blackberries Himalaya Blackberry (Rubus armeniacus Focke) Thanks for the comment and the vote. Then rake or pitchfork through the area, or weed whack it, or what ever you have to do to be able to see the ground. Thank you so much for the kind comment, Martie! My husband is just waiting for our blackberries to get ripe. Dead blackberry leaves change the composition of the leaf litter. The hub will probably be published in about one week or so. If the environment is suitable for the growth of the canes and if the plants aren't damaged by the activities of wildlife or other factors, they may become a problem. Removing the plants is painful without the aid of highly protective gloves. Himalayan and native also cross to produce Cascade berry. With their means of protection, thorns, it would make sense. Thank you, Tom. Rubus armeniacus, the Himalayan blackberry or Armenian blackberry, is a species of Rubus in the blackberry group Rubus subgenus Rubus series Discolores (P.J. The species is very invasive and often grows vigorously. Question: Are the Himalayan blackberry root tubers edible? While most blackberries have round stems, cutleaf and Himalayan blackberries have ridged stems with five angles. Native relatives include the trailing blackberry (Rubus ursinus) and salmonberry (R. spectabilis). Wineberry creates spiny, inpenetrable thickets that reduce an area’s value for wildlife habitat and recreation. He loves to pick them. Today it appears to be a plant that is a natural member of the community instead of an introduced one. ex Genev It was lots of work but well worth it to do the right thing. It was found invading natural areas by the 1970s, and it is currently recorded in most states east of the Mississippi River and in Alabama (USDA PLANTS Database). Wear leather gloves, sturdy jeans and long sleeves to deal with these plants. Many runners go back to the same big knoted root. To do so, I need to include one photo to represent the hub , so I wonder if this is OK with you? It's easy to monitor frequently visited areas like gardens and landscaped areas to check for the first appearance of a blackberry plant. Answer: I collect Himalayan blackberry fruits to eat every year, but I’ve never considered eating any other part of the plant. It's easiest to remove the plants while they are young and relatively weak. The native trailing blackberry (Rubus ursinus) is low-growing and less robust than the two introduced species. I appreciate all your votes. Young plants grow over the dead canes, producing a tangled thicket than can be hard to remove. It is a Class C noxious weed that is not selected for required control in King County. (Himalayan blackberry) is a common non-native invading riparian areas in California and the Pacific Northwest, originally spread from Eurasia to Australia, New Zealand and S. Africa. I appreciate the comment and the vote. We had a small excavator rip out about an acre of them. The plant has become invasive and grows and spreads rapidly. if you are facing a huge thicket, just start at the edge, and cut back vines 4 feet or so at a time. Someone who wants to experience the nutritional and taste benefits of blackberries might want to investigate species and varieties bred for garden use. drbj and sherry from south Florida on July 23, 2012: My grandmother used to bake delicious blackberry pies so you brought back lots of pleasant memories with this lovely looking hub, Alicia, and beautiful photos. Alun. Then dig the roots. Voted up. This invasive species, Rubus armeniacus (commonly known as Himalayan blackberry) has long been incorrectly known scientifically as Rubus procerus or Rubus discolor in North America (and in fact, I’m not sure if the common name now reflects the true origin of the plant–Armenian blackberry would be better. Evergreen blackberry leaves are deeply incised, jagged-toothed and green on both upper and lower leaf surfaces. Picking blackberries is a popular late summer and early fall activity here in southwestern British Columbia. I have been going out every few days to dig where they have sprouted up again. They also contain an interesting array of phytochemicals, or phytonutrients. I like to use a fork to dig the roots, it lets me loosen all around them rather than trying to go through them. Origin and Habitat Contrary to its common name, Himalayan blackberry (HBB) is a native of Western Europe. Many plants have one part that is edible and another part that is unsafe to eat. The mature stems of the Himalayan blackberry plant are thick and ridged. Thousands of unwanted progeny later we call it Himalayan blackberry. Pacific Blackberry is a species in the Rosaceae (Rose) family that is native to a large part of western North America from Baja to Canada and from the coast to the Rocky Mountains. It would seem that plants that have evolved to live in the harsh environment of the Himalayas have too much of an easy time in more forgiving environments. The plant is said to be evergreen, though in my area it dies back to a large extent in the winter. discolor Weihe & Nees; R. procerus P.J. Funny though.. Thank you very much for the lovely comment, Prasetio! It soon "escaped" into the wild via its seeds, which are eaten by birds and pass through their digestive systems unharmed. Linda Crampton (author) from British Columbia, Canada on July 24, 2012: Thank you for the comment and the interesting information, Beelady. Hi, theragged edge. The Himalayan blackberry shrub (Rubus discolor), for example, is sturdy, sharp, and ubiquitous. Linda Crampton (author) from British Columbia, Canada on October 29, 2012: Thank you very much for the comment, Alun. Rubus ursinus is a North American species of blackberry or dewberry, known by the common names California blackberry, California dewberry, Douglas berry, Pacific blackberry, Pacific dewberry and trailing blackberry.. She loves to study nature and write about living things. It can reach a height of three meters, or almost ten feet. Native blackberries also grow in this region, but they are a much rarer sight. They are pretty tenacious beasts. The longer that Himalayan blackberry plants are left in an area, the harder they are to remove. Sonoma County horticulturalist Luther Burbank acquired the seeds in 1885 from a trader in India, and dubbed it the “Himalaya” blackberry, though it was actually native to Armenia and Northern Iran. An individual Himalayan blackberry plant lives for only two or three years. Himalayan blackberry originates from the Armenia region, hence its scientific name, … Linda Crampton is a writer and teacher with an honors degree in biology. Digging deeply to remove all of the root can eliminate a blackberry bush. Thanks for the comment. All blackberries with tall, self-supporting, thick and stiff canes are exotic weed species. Growers liked that the berries turned black long before they were ripe, which made them firm for transport, and that the canes produced more fruit than the native cultivars. I love to observe nature and learn more about it. This thread is so timely for me since we too just moved to the area. A blackberry or raspberry fruit consists of a group of drupelets. Evening the finer prickles on the plant are irritating. Question: Do the Himalayan blackberry bushes spread across refuge areas? Both its scientific name and origin have been the subject of much confusion, with much of the literature referring to it as either Rubus procerus or Rubus discolor, and often mistakenly citing its origin as western European. I don't know how you find these interesting topics but I am always fascinated by the details. I loved reading about your habit of picking wild ones for harvest. It was introduced to North America in the 1890s as breeding stock for raspberries. For more information on noxious weed regulations and definitions, see Noxious weed lists and laws. I can look at all the little birds and critters guilt free, since I used no toxins in this process. Himalayan actually European in origin, L. Burbank got seeds from cultivated(?) Physical or mechanical methods can remove Himalayan blackberries, but hard manual work or machinery may be required. Just remember that goats will eat most everything they have access to, including native plants or ornamentals you may be trying to retain. The edibility and deliciousness of Himalayan blackberry fruits doesn’t mean that the roots are safe. People are not so happy when the blackberry plant invades their gardens or covers other plants, which it will do if it gets the chance. A friend of mine just did this in Mollala. The natives are done flowering and are nearly ripe now; while the non-natives are blooming with a few green berries. It's much easier to remove young plants than mature ones. In addition, they contain beta-carotene, which our bodies convert into vitamin A. Blackberries are rich in manganese and copper and provide a useful amount of magnesium, potassium, and other minerals. I am currently writing a review of 10 of the best hubs on the subject of wild plants and would like to include this one to promote it. The plant doesn't flower in winter. Trailing blackberries, although similar in color and shape, are slightly smaller. My mother and my aunt were both keen bakers, and they gave me my memories of wonderful cakes and pies. Most blackberry vines you see almost everywhere are a variety called Himalaya blackberry, considered by local authorities to be an invasive species, as well as a threat to native plants and animals. If they're not controlled they can quickly grow over over other things and take over the land. Thank you in advance for the mention! Shaw says the Himalayan blackberry erodes soil and crowds out native plants and animals. It's very nice to meet you! Always be certain that you have identified a plant correctly before you pick any part of it to eat. I'm picking blackberries every day right now where I live. Frequently mowing the above-ground parts of the plants to destroy their leaves may eventually starve them. It’s blackberry season in the Pacific Northwest. The native are quite different, ropey and creeping on the ground except where supported by a shrub, boulder or fence. Thank you, drbj. Humans seem to have an ambivalent attitude towards Himalayan blackberries. Control is recommended but not required because it is widespread in King County. But I believe you. Although the rapid growth of blackberry plants can be a problem, I enjoy studying them and photographing them. The flowers have five white or pale pink petals and have both male and female reproductive structures. Control is recommended but not required because it is widespread in King County. This is not as daunting as it seems. Alun. This situation requires determination and daily effort in order to remove the plants, but it can be done, as I know from experience. The prickly thickets prevent some animals from inhabiting the area and block their path to important places, such as water sources. Very difficult to get rid of. Native: indigenous. Sampling blackberries on a walk has to be done carefully to avoid prickles and thorns. Wineberry replaces native vegetation, inclu… Maybe I should again - it's almost blackberry season here. It soon "escaped" into the wild via its seeds, which are eaten by birds and pass through their digestive systems unharmed. The native blackberries have thin floppy stems, about a quarter inch in diameter; the non-natives have very thick strong stems, easily at least half an inch in diameter. -toothed Himalayan blackberry leaves are green above and paler grayish-green below. Used to pick a lot of blackberries and make blackberry jelly, blackberry and apple pie, and fruit crumbles. It grows in many habitats, including the edge of forests, in open woodlands, beside trails and roads, in gardens, beside rivers, and on farmland. Great job on covering this plant. In my experience, gardening gloves from supermarkets may not prevent jabs. The petioles (leaf stems) branch from the cane in an alternate arrangement and have fine prickles, which like the cane thorns often point backwards. We have problems with wild raspberries getting into everything. Pacific blackberry (Rubus ursinus), also known as trailing blackberry, wild mountain blackberry, or Northwest dewberry is the only blackberry native to Oregon. digging down around the root below the dirt will reveal a smaller tap toot or (or 2or3 ) cut these with your loppers. The Himalayan blackberry (R. armeniacus) and evergreen blackberry (R. … The word "bramble" may also be used for the fruit of the plant. Now it is just a great heap of brambles - I think there is even a car in there somewhere! Yes, it would be okay to use one of my photos in your hub. Himalayan blackberry is a tall, semi-woody shrub with thorny stems and edible fruits. My close-up photo above makes the thorns look more dramatic than in real life, but they are still a threat to people exploring the plant. Answer: If you are referring to a wildlife or nature refuge, the answer is yes, the blackberry may spread through the area. Have a great weekend! You can rent goats temporarily to clear your property of blackberries. Birds, bears, coyotes, foxes, and squirrels feed on the berries. ('Himalayan Giant' still listed and sold in UK). The native are quite different, ropey and creeping on the ground except where supported by a shrub, boulder or fence. plants in Himalayan region and named one seedling 'Himalayan Giant'. I'm looking forward to picking the berries soon, though! Himalayan blackberry is a Class C noxious weed that is not selected for required control in King County. HBB was probably first introduced to North America in 1885 as a culti- vated crop. Thats true! It is a notorious invasive species in many countries around the world and costs millions of dollars for both control and in estimated impacts. The leaflets have a roughly oval shape, a toothed edge, and a pointed tip. I know we want to remove any Himalayan blackberries, but we would keep at least some if they were native blackberries. A very good study of the Himalayan blackberry - its good points and its bad (and very sharp!) Martie Coetser from South Africa on July 23, 2012: Alicia, this is a very interesting and well-presented hub about the Himalayan Blackberry plants. It isn’t native to British Columbia and is very invasive. Another advantage of eating the wild fruit is that picking the berries just before eating them ensures that they will contain the maximum concentration of nutrients. Though the … People or organizations with blackberries growing near the borderline of their property may not announce their use of chemicals. Each drupelet is an individual fruit and contains its own seed. Why control Himalayan and evergreen blackberries? Blackberries are worth picking. This is often called “white felt.” This is similar to the appearance of the undersides of raspberry leaves. (The plant can grow from a piece of root or stem.). I consider blackberries a delicacy, too! Greensleeves Hubs from Essex, UK on October 29, 2012: Excellent hub AliciaC with very fine photos to illustrate the blackberry plants. I once got sick after eating some slightly moldy ones. Yes, it's very difficult to separate the benefits and the disadvantages of blackberries! There are lots of gorgeous, wildlife-friendly native plants ready to make an appearance in your garden, Learn what they are, where they are and why we need them, Sometimes a garden thug is exactly what’s called for, February is a good time to start seeds, shape up shrubs and watch for the earliest blooms. On the other hand, some animals can travel through the thickets, including rats and feral domestic rabbits. The stem of the young plant grows upwards at first, but it soon bends over in a graceful arch to reach the ground. In all my reading, I’ve never encountered any reference to someone eating the root (or the root tuber). every where a vine lops over ands touches the ground, it will try to plant a root. Also covers those considered historical (not seen in 20 years). Linda Crampton (author) from British Columbia, Canada on August 27, 2012: Life Under Construction from Neverland on August 27, 2012: Linda Crampton (author) from British Columbia, Canada on August 04, 2012: Hi, CMHypno. If you decide to pick wild blackberries, it's important to collect them from plants that you know haven't been treated with a herbicide. A bird's-foot trefoil beside a young blackberry leaf. Our entire backyard was covered with blackberries. A strong lopper that can cut through thick stems is an essential tool. Also known as Armenian Blackberry, this wide-spread and aggressive weed is native to Armenia and Northern Iran. Some bigger ones Ive found dry a year later and actually used as sarter fuel for the fire. Thank you so much for all the comments and for liking my Facebook page, Peg. I know from experience that the plant is still viable at this time of year and that it will grow vigorously when spring arrives. It can be done, but you will have to go back and keep the area clear of roots that you missed for a couple years. Some of these plants are thornless and are less invasive than the Himalayan blackberry. I used to have a Samoyed (white husky) dog that loved to eat blackberries. Bees use the nectar in the flowers to make a honey that is sold commercially. These are chemicals that aren't essential for keeping us alive but are thought to help prevent disease. Ethnobotany Himalayan blackberry is a bit of a misnomer because it isn’t even from the Himalayas. Blackberry leaves are typically comprised of 5 leaflets and sometimes 3 leaflets. "It grows into the forest, it grows in full sun. All of the leaflets are attached to a common point, forming what is known as a palmate pattern. The canes are green or red and bear large thorns that have a red base and a sharp, light green point. The fruits are delicious, but blackberry thickets are hard to penetrate, and they cover other plants. Linda Crampton (author) from British Columbia, Canada on July 28, 2012: I'm looking forward to picking ripe blackberries too, moonlake! Acne. The stems are thinner and the leaves are composed of three leaflets. I have picked blackberries here in the UK since I was a child, and never realised that they were an invasive species. Müll.) There are already some that are ripe. When you get caught on the thorns move toward it's roots to get off of them. The prickles on the petiole continue along the underside of the midrib of each leaflet. The native thorns are hairy splintery things, whereas the non-natives have ones more like rose thorns. Mowing seems to be the easiest control for us, but they pop up in our borders and woods. 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